Last Updated: July 7, 2023

John “River John” & Sarah Mosby (Livesay) Helms Family

The Helms family of Floyd Co., VA reportedly derive from brothers Adam of Goblintown Creek in Patrick Co., VA & Thomas Helms of Daniel’s Run in Franklin Co., VA.

1. Helms, John “River John”	Parents: Thomas Helms. 1803 Birth: 3-14-1803 Franklin Co., VA. 1823 Marriage #1: John Helms m. Sally M. Livesay 02-03-1823 Franklin Co., VA. Surety: Peter Livesay. John & Sarah Helms lived on the Little River & had 3 known children: Sarah Elizabeth L. Helms m. Col. William Shelor & lived on the Helms homestead. [Shelor_WilliamB_Sarah] Nancy Ann Helms, 2nd daughter, m. Samuel Strickler, s/o Jacob & Mary (Kagey) Strickler. [strickler] Ellen Helms m. James W. Crockett 1830 Montgomery Co., VA: John Helms, 1 male & 1 female 20-29 yo, 1 male 5-9 yo, 2 females 0-4 yo. 1840 Floyd Co., VA, pg187: John Helms, 1 male & 1 female 30-39 yo, 1 female 15-19 yo, 1 female 10-14 yo, 1 female 0-4 yo. 1850 Floyd Co., VA, H400: John Helms, 47 yo w/m farmer, b. Franklin, $3000, HOH. 1860 Floyd Co., VA, Floyd Court House PO, H137: John Helms, 57 yo w/m farmer, b. VA, $10,000/6,000, HOH. 1862 Death: 5-9-1862. 1862 Burial: Strickler Cemetery, SR 221, Floyd Co., VA.
…+ Helms, Sarah Mosby	Parents: Peter & Susannah (McGhee) Livesay. 1803 Birth: 11-30-1803 Franklin Co. VA. 1850 Floyd Co., VA, H400: Sarah 46 yo w/f, b. Franklin. 1860 Floyd Co., VA, Floyd Court House PO, H137: Sarah 56 yo w/f, b. VA. 1870 Floyd Co., VA, Little River Twp, H118: Sarah M. Helms, 64 yo w/f, b. VA, without occupation, James W. Crockette HOH. 1880 Floyd Co., VA, Little River Twp, H294: Sallie Helms, 75 yo widowed mother-in-law, b. VA, James W. Crockette HOH. 1884 Death: 1-4-1884. 1884 Burial: Strickler Cemetery, SR 221, Floyd Co., VA.
…2. Helms, Ellen	Parents: John “River John” & Sarah Mosby (Levesay) Helms. 1840 Birth: 8-22-1840 Floyd Co., VA. 1850 Floyd Co., VA, H400: Ellen 9 yo w/f, b. Floyd. 1860 Floyd Co., VA, Floyd Court House PO, H137: Ellen 19 yo w/f, b. VA. i1866 Marriage #1: Ellen Helms m. James W. Crockett 07-17-1866 at Sally Helms', Floyd Co., VA by J.C. Hall. He 25 yo single farmer, b. & living in Montgomery Co., VA, s/o Robert & Sally Crockett. She single 24 yo, b. & living in Floyd Co., VA, d/o John & Sally Helms. James W. Crockett, b. 5-30-1841 Montgomery Co., VA, d. 5-29-1914, s/o Robert & Sarah (Harrison) Crockett. [no file] They lived on the Little River & had 3 known children. 1870 Floyd Co., VA, Little River Twp, H118: ______Crockett, James W. 28 yo w/m farmer, b. VA, $3,000/630, HOH. _________ Ellen 28 yo w/f, keeping house, b. VA. _________ Ellen May 3 yo w/f, b. VA. _________ Gay 1 yo w/f, b. VA. (m. Emmet B. Ward. Buried: Jacksonville Burial Grd, Floyd Co., VA. pg43) ______ Helms, Sarah M. 64 yo w/f, b. VA. ______ Dodd, Bell 5 yo mu/f, b. VA. 1880 Floyd Co., VA, Little River District, H294: ______ Crockette, James W. 39 yo w/m farmer, b. VA, HOH. _________ Ellen 39 yo wife, b. VA. _________ May 13 yo daughter, b. VA. _________ Gay 10 yo daughter, b. VA. _________ Daisy 5 yo daughter, b. VA. (m. Samuel Roffe Brame abt 1897, s/o John I. Brame & Nancy Hall) 1890 Floyd Co., VA, Little River District: ______ Crockett, James W. 49 yo HOH. _________ Ellen 49 yo. _________ Ellen M. 22 yo. _________ Elizabeth G. 21 yo. _________ Daisy A. 15 yo. 1892 Death: 12-20-1892. 1892 Burial: Strickler Cemetery, SR 221, Floyd Co., VA. (with Crockett)
… Whitlock, Alvin	b. abt 1829 Patrick Co., VA. 1850 Floyd Co., VA, H400: Alvin Whitlock, 21 yo w/m laborer, b. Patrick, John Helms HOH.
… Livesay, Washington	b. abt 1810 Franklin Co., VA, s/o Peter & Susannah (McGhee) Livesay. 1850 Floyd Co., VA, H400: Washington Levacy, 40 yo w/m laborer, b. Franklin, $1400, John Helms HOH.
… Booth, Right	b. abt 1814 VA. 1860 Floyd Co., VA, Floyd Court House PO, H137: Right Booth, 46 yo w/m laborer, b. VA, John Helms HOH.
… Dodd, Belle	b. abt 1865 VA. 1860 Floyd Co., VA, Floyd Court House PO, H137: Belle Dodd, 15 yo mu/f hskpr, b. VA, John Helms HOH. 1870 Floyd Co., VA, Little River Twp, H118: Bell Dodd 5 (25?) yo mu/f, b. VA, James W. Crockett HOH.
… Simmons, Burdine	b. abt 1859 VA. 1860 Floyd Co., VA, Floyd Court House PO, H137: Burdine Simmons, 21 yo w/m servant, b. VA, works on farm, John Helms HOH.